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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 05:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello there. It is offical my ex-husband is Gay. I had thought he was for a few years now. He lives with his Partner. Just typing that is still so strange for me. Here lays the problem. My 16yr old lives with my ex and his partner, and our 14yr old lives with me.  Our 16yr old has know since he was 14yrs old. After I sat down and and asked my ex if he was gay, and hearing he is, it was like Wowzers!!!! I ask him why he hasn&#039;t told our 14yr old and he said he didn&#039;t think he was ready. Really it is I don&#039;t think he is ready to tell our 14yr old. Our 16yr found by accident. I feel our 14yr old already knows on some level. I am not sure how to go about letting him know. Just about, no I would say every else in are families know. If anyone has any ideas on how to maybe go about doing this. I am not sure if I am comfortable talking about it. I am still dealing with the fact my ex is gay. Our divorce was rough, and very shortly after we split he met his partner. I am a live and let live person, it is not my place to judge people.  Like I said Wowzers!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello there. It is offical my ex-husband is Gay. I had thought he was for a few years now. He lives with his Partner. Just typing that is still so strange for me. Here lays the problem. My 16yr old lives with my ex and his partner, and our 14yr old lives with me.  Our 16yr old has know since he was 14yrs old. After I sat down and and asked my ex if he was gay, and hearing he is, it was like Wowzers!!!! I ask him why he hasn&#8217;t told our 14yr old and he said he didn&#8217;t think he was ready. Really it is I don&#8217;t think he is ready to tell our 14yr old. Our 16yr found by accident. I feel our 14yr old already knows on some level. I am not sure how to go about letting him know. Just about, no I would say every else in are families know. If anyone has any ideas on how to maybe go about doing this. I am not sure if I am comfortable talking about it. I am still dealing with the fact my ex is gay. Our divorce was rough, and very shortly after we split he met his partner. I am a live and let live person, it is not my place to judge people.  Like I said Wowzers!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 02:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...I was really lovin this until Marilyn&#039;s comments.  I appreciate her viewpoint...it points out that I have a lot more research to do before deciding how to handle coming out to my 3 kids.  I&#039;m so confused!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;I was really lovin this until Marilyn&#8217;s comments.  I appreciate her viewpoint&#8230;it points out that I have a lot more research to do before deciding how to handle coming out to my 3 kids.  I&#8217;m so confused!</p>
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		<title>By: "Joe"</title>
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		<dc:creator>"Joe"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Marilyn, I hear what you say, but I feel that continuing a &quot;don&#039;t ask, don&#039;t tell&quot; stance is, in the long run far more difficult for children. 

We are as sick as our secrets.  I&#039;m wondering if the sense of betrayal children may feel down the road is not worse than the difficulties they may have to deal with now.

Perhaps it is how children are told and how their parents tell them, act with them, be with them, raise them.  Are some children suicidal because a parent is gay?  Or are there other issues driving that.  It can become a convenient lightning rod for all the problems.  Scapegoating never works.

I believe that you are no more homophobic than most of us (that includes those who&#039;re gay).  But denial and deception are, I think, worse enemies than the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Marilyn, I hear what you say, but I feel that continuing a &#8220;don&#8217;t ask, don&#8217;t tell&#8221; stance is, in the long run far more difficult for children. </p>
<p>We are as sick as our secrets.  I&#8217;m wondering if the sense of betrayal children may feel down the road is not worse than the difficulties they may have to deal with now.</p>
<p>Perhaps it is how children are told and how their parents tell them, act with them, be with them, raise them.  Are some children suicidal because a parent is gay?  Or are there other issues driving that.  It can become a convenient lightning rod for all the problems.  Scapegoating never works.</p>
<p>I believe that you are no more homophobic than most of us (that includes those who&#8217;re gay).  But denial and deception are, I think, worse enemies than the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a family therapist, I have had several suicidal children from gay families.  I realize that not all children of gay parents have mental problems, but I think that it is selfish of people who are gay to force their issues onto their children.  These gay feelings are natural to you, but they are not natural to your children.  Before you call me homophobic, I will tell you that my brother is gay and I love him very much.  He died of AIDs.  I have not yet told my children how he died.  I suspect that being in a family that is different always put pressure on kids, so think carefully before you worry about your own needs to have kids.  An oldre hetrosexual couple should think about how healthy they will be later in life before bringing children into this world.  I am not saying that gay people are bad, at all- but I am saying that the world is a hard enough place to be as it is- don&#039;t force more heart ache on kids.  They may not talk about it to you, but these kids suffer tremendously from social isolation and stigma.  It is just the reality of our world.  Just as you would not hurt a child physically on purpose, why would you hurt them emtionally?  Not everyone is intended to be a parent.  If a child is not created naturally through a union, maybe that should say something about nature&#039;s intentions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a family therapist, I have had several suicidal children from gay families.  I realize that not all children of gay parents have mental problems, but I think that it is selfish of people who are gay to force their issues onto their children.  These gay feelings are natural to you, but they are not natural to your children.  Before you call me homophobic, I will tell you that my brother is gay and I love him very much.  He died of AIDs.  I have not yet told my children how he died.  I suspect that being in a family that is different always put pressure on kids, so think carefully before you worry about your own needs to have kids.  An oldre hetrosexual couple should think about how healthy they will be later in life before bringing children into this world.  I am not saying that gay people are bad, at all- but I am saying that the world is a hard enough place to be as it is- don&#8217;t force more heart ache on kids.  They may not talk about it to you, but these kids suffer tremendously from social isolation and stigma.  It is just the reality of our world.  Just as you would not hurt a child physically on purpose, why would you hurt them emtionally?  Not everyone is intended to be a parent.  If a child is not created naturally through a union, maybe that should say something about nature&#8217;s intentions.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Gibraltar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Gibraltar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Abigail,
i came out to my 10 year old son a few months back and he was really good about it, unfortunately my two 14 year old daughters  dont have much of a relationshp with me because my ex wife is a bit of a..... how could i say this..........  well shes a total bitch haahaahaa i keep looking for an oportunity to talk to them but it never seems to creep up so  im a bit stuck on how to handle them, anyway thanx for the advice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Abigail,<br />
i came out to my 10 year old son a few months back and he was really good about it, unfortunately my two 14 year old daughters  dont have much of a relationshp with me because my ex wife is a bit of a&#8230;.. how could i say this&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.  well shes a total bitch haahaahaa i keep looking for an oportunity to talk to them but it never seems to creep up so  im a bit stuck on how to handle them, anyway thanx for the advice</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simply make sure your child is having no problems at school, therefore they won&#039;t think you&#039;re pondering them with something awful.  Menton love alot.  Mommy loves them and so does their three daddies. Also, more presents, more people...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply make sure your child is having no problems at school, therefore they won&#8217;t think you&#8217;re pondering them with something awful.  Menton love alot.  Mommy loves them and so does their three daddies. Also, more presents, more people&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lenore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lenore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a great response!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a great response!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous in Colorado</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous in Colorado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing Ron...role models for coming out to your kids are far &amp; few between. I have 2 children ages 5 &amp; 8. Divorced for 1 1/2 years. I plan on discussing my being gay with them this summer. I chose to wait for many reasons, a few of the more difficult being: I didn&#039;t know what to say, fear of saying too much, and personal internalized homophobia.

I struggled with thinking I can protect them from &#039;shame&#039; &amp; being teased at school. On the other hand,I do not want to shove by kids into the same closet I&#039;ve been in for the past 40 years.

We are blessed with a very glbt affirmative school, not just &#039;tolerant&#039;. My ex-wife &amp; I plan on discussing my being gay with their teachers.

The more comfortable I feel with myself, and recognize the homophobia I pass on by trying to &#039;protect&#039; my kids, the more it makes sense to talk to them and open up the dialogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing Ron&#8230;role models for coming out to your kids are far &amp; few between. I have 2 children ages 5 &amp; 8. Divorced for 1 1/2 years. I plan on discussing my being gay with them this summer. I chose to wait for many reasons, a few of the more difficult being: I didn&#8217;t know what to say, fear of saying too much, and personal internalized homophobia.</p>
<p>I struggled with thinking I can protect them from &#8217;shame&#8217; &amp; being teased at school. On the other hand,I do not want to shove by kids into the same closet I&#8217;ve been in for the past 40 years.</p>
<p>We are blessed with a very glbt affirmative school, not just &#8216;tolerant&#8217;. My ex-wife &amp; I plan on discussing my being gay with their teachers.</p>
<p>The more comfortable I feel with myself, and recognize the homophobia I pass on by trying to &#8216;protect&#8217; my kids, the more it makes sense to talk to them and open up the dialogue.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous in Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous in Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron, 

I can&#039;t tell you how excited I was to find your story.  It is certainly good to hear another positive story.  There aren&#039;t too many of them in this situation.  My ex-husband and I are in the exact situation with our 8 year old daughter.  She was two when we divorced but we have remained close friends.  I am remarried with a second daughter who is 3.  And my ex-husband has had the same partner for five years.  

To see all of us together, you would never guess that we had this history.  We all get along great.   I love his partner, as does my daughter.  This situations is all she&#039;s known.  My current husband is a true blessing and has been so excepting and supportive.  Here&#039;s my dilema:  My ex-husband and I had always thought that it would be best to wait until she started asking questions because we didn&#039;t want it to seem like we were pointing it out and making an issue out of it.  We thought this approach might convey a negative picture of homosexuality.   

We knew that growing up with a diverse family would be hard at times so we wanted to make it as easy and supportive as possible.  But now as I read Abigail&#039;s advice and your story, I&#039;m having serious doubts about this approach.   Just this year, our daughter has &quot;become aware&quot; that her father and I were married at one time.  She has had many questions about why we divorced and is sad that we aren&#039;t together and questions if we would ever get back together again.  When she ask&#039;s &quot;why&quot; we have just said that it&#039;s complicated.  We assure her that we all love her and that just because her family doesn&#039;t look &quot;normal&quot;, that she is special because she has so many people that love her.   Do you have any advice for us?          </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t tell you how excited I was to find your story.  It is certainly good to hear another positive story.  There aren&#8217;t too many of them in this situation.  My ex-husband and I are in the exact situation with our 8 year old daughter.  She was two when we divorced but we have remained close friends.  I am remarried with a second daughter who is 3.  And my ex-husband has had the same partner for five years.  </p>
<p>To see all of us together, you would never guess that we had this history.  We all get along great.   I love his partner, as does my daughter.  This situations is all she&#8217;s known.  My current husband is a true blessing and has been so excepting and supportive.  Here&#8217;s my dilema:  My ex-husband and I had always thought that it would be best to wait until she started asking questions because we didn&#8217;t want it to seem like we were pointing it out and making an issue out of it.  We thought this approach might convey a negative picture of homosexuality.   </p>
<p>We knew that growing up with a diverse family would be hard at times so we wanted to make it as easy and supportive as possible.  But now as I read Abigail&#8217;s advice and your story, I&#8217;m having serious doubts about this approach.   Just this year, our daughter has &#8220;become aware&#8221; that her father and I were married at one time.  She has had many questions about why we divorced and is sad that we aren&#8217;t together and questions if we would ever get back together again.  When she ask&#8217;s &#8220;why&#8221; we have just said that it&#8217;s complicated.  We assure her that we all love her and that just because her family doesn&#8217;t look &#8220;normal&#8221;, that she is special because she has so many people that love her.   Do you have any advice for us?</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ron
 
Thanks for that beautiful tale. I don&#039;t appreciate being made to feel tearful at this hour of the day though. All that I want to really say is that your family is going to be fine, there&#039;s an awful lot of love their. If only their were more people like you and your wife in this world, it would be a far better place.
 
Regards
 
Danny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ron</p>
<p>Thanks for that beautiful tale. I don&#8217;t appreciate being made to feel tearful at this hour of the day though. All that I want to really say is that your family is going to be fine, there&#8217;s an awful lot of love their. If only their were more people like you and your wife in this world, it would be a far better place.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Danny</p>
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