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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently informed my evangelical parents that my partner and I will soon have twins via egg donor/surrogacy.  My mom preached at me for 15 minutes until I cut her off.  In a nutshell, she thinks I&#039;m going to hell and the babies are &quot;another sign of the end times&quot;.

I&#039;ve never really been close to my parents or family and they haven&#039;t contacted me in 15 years unless they want something from me.  They also refuse to acknowledge my partner, so their reaction wasn&#039;t a shock.  Their nutty religious views nearly caused me to commit suicide prior to coming out 15 years ago, but since then I&#039;ve come to reject organized religion for what it is.

At this point, I could care less if I ever see or hear from my parents again.  Unless they contact me (they know the due date), I have no plans to even send them a birth announcement.  After spending a lot of my money and vacation time in the past two years helping them out, I&#039;m done.  I in no way feel any love from these people and I&#039;d never stand for them trying to brainwash my children.  I wouldn&#039;t even trust them to babysit for an hour!  I&#039;ve cut my losses and I&#039;m moving on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently informed my evangelical parents that my partner and I will soon have twins via egg donor/surrogacy.  My mom preached at me for 15 minutes until I cut her off.  In a nutshell, she thinks I&#8217;m going to hell and the babies are &#8220;another sign of the end times&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never really been close to my parents or family and they haven&#8217;t contacted me in 15 years unless they want something from me.  They also refuse to acknowledge my partner, so their reaction wasn&#8217;t a shock.  Their nutty religious views nearly caused me to commit suicide prior to coming out 15 years ago, but since then I&#8217;ve come to reject organized religion for what it is.</p>
<p>At this point, I could care less if I ever see or hear from my parents again.  Unless they contact me (they know the due date), I have no plans to even send them a birth announcement.  After spending a lot of my money and vacation time in the past two years helping them out, I&#8217;m done.  I in no way feel any love from these people and I&#8217;d never stand for them trying to brainwash my children.  I wouldn&#8217;t even trust them to babysit for an hour!  I&#8217;ve cut my losses and I&#8217;m moving on.</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as this born again lesbian,I want to know how she thinks she is saved if she is a lesbian?My bible states homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of heaven in 1Cor 6:9-10.She better read it and weep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as this born again lesbian,I want to know how she thinks she is saved if she is a lesbian?My bible states homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of heaven in 1Cor 6:9-10.She better read it and weep.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous writes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous writes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your sister is realizing the truth and if it hurts. Deal with it ,

To many want to rewrite and use Bible verses to justify themselves,
Jesus never made religion ,man did , yes you can say many things to make yourself  justified in your relationship but deep down inside  it bothers what you . Not so much your sis. 
Like one said we all will stand before God and judged accordingly and yes God does loves us , but do not read His word part to suit your needs read the whole chapter .
I was there once ,  just like you .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your sister is realizing the truth and if it hurts. Deal with it ,</p>
<p>To many want to rewrite and use Bible verses to justify themselves,<br />
Jesus never made religion ,man did , yes you can say many things to make yourself  justified in your relationship but deep down inside  it bothers what you . Not so much your sis.<br />
Like one said we all will stand before God and judged accordingly and yes God does loves us , but do not read His word part to suit your needs read the whole chapter .<br />
I was there once ,  just like you .</p>
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		<title>By: A born-again lesbian</title>
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		<dc:creator>A born-again lesbian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first time I read this Q &amp; A I hadn&#039;t really figured out the Christian and gay thing.  At that time I knew that God loved me and would not forsake me just because I was being true to myself.  Matter of fact, it was an answer to my prayer that changed my whole outlook on being Christian and gay.  God loves us all and has made us all different.  The world is full of diversity.  why not sexual orientation? 
 
One of the biggest problems with organized religion is the fact that most churches teach that homosexuality is a sin.  They do not want to believe otherwise because it is just easier for them not to.  There are some gay affirming churches out there though.  They have taken the time to really read the bible and see that the &#039;homosexuality&#039; spoken about in the bible were not monogamous relationships, they were adulterous and or criminal sex acts.  

I&#039;m not sure if I am allowed to share website addresses here, but there is one in particular that, I believe, is a necessity to Christian gays and Christian family members and friends of gays. http://www.godmademegay.com  It is a letter written by a formerly homophobic Baptist pastor.  A man who really took the time to study the Bible and find out what it really says regarding homosexuality.  As a Christian lesbian, it was very comforting for me to read.  The fact that I came out to myself about 2 years after having been a born-again Christian makes the statement &#039;God hates gays&#039; very mythical.
 
Sincerely,
a born-again lesbian
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first time I read this Q &amp; A I hadn&#8217;t really figured out the Christian and gay thing.  At that time I knew that God loved me and would not forsake me just because I was being true to myself.  Matter of fact, it was an answer to my prayer that changed my whole outlook on being Christian and gay.  God loves us all and has made us all different.  The world is full of diversity.  why not sexual orientation? </p>
<p>One of the biggest problems with organized religion is the fact that most churches teach that homosexuality is a sin.  They do not want to believe otherwise because it is just easier for them not to.  There are some gay affirming churches out there though.  They have taken the time to really read the bible and see that the &#8216;homosexuality&#8217; spoken about in the bible were not monogamous relationships, they were adulterous and or criminal sex acts.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if I am allowed to share website addresses here, but there is one in particular that, I believe, is a necessity to Christian gays and Christian family members and friends of gays. <a href="http://www.godmademegay.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.godmademegay.com</a>  It is a letter written by a formerly homophobic Baptist pastor.  A man who really took the time to study the Bible and find out what it really says regarding homosexuality.  As a Christian lesbian, it was very comforting for me to read.  The fact that I came out to myself about 2 years after having been a born-again Christian makes the statement &#8216;God hates gays&#8217; very mythical.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
a born-again lesbian</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would advise the writer to visit some of the gay Christian web pages on the Internet and become knowledgeable about what the Bible really says, then share the information with his sister. 

He should also remember that religious people often have a difficult time expressing their views about such issues to family members and are taught that sharing their beliefs is the loving thing to do. Most people are not very good at communicating their beliefs in a non-judgmental way. He should not feel that his sister has stopped loving him because they have a difference of opinion about religious beliefs.

Being tolerant of the intolerant is quite a challenge, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would advise the writer to visit some of the gay Christian web pages on the Internet and become knowledgeable about what the Bible really says, then share the information with his sister. </p>
<p>He should also remember that religious people often have a difficult time expressing their views about such issues to family members and are taught that sharing their beliefs is the loving thing to do. Most people are not very good at communicating their beliefs in a non-judgmental way. He should not feel that his sister has stopped loving him because they have a difference of opinion about religious beliefs.</p>
<p>Being tolerant of the intolerant is quite a challenge, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let this gentleman know that the site http://www.familyacceptance.org has made a lot of people rethink their views about gays and Christianity. Perhaps if he sent it to his sister she&#039;d wake up and realize she&#039;s wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let this gentleman know that the site <a href="http://www.familyacceptance.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.familyacceptance.org</a> has made a lot of people rethink their views about gays and Christianity. Perhaps if he sent it to his sister she&#8217;d wake up and realize she&#8217;s wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: TDO</title>
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		<dc:creator>TDO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I come from a Baptist Minister&#039;s family and have just in the past year been separated from my wife who began a lesbian relationship while we were still living in the same household. We have two young daughters, now aged 5 and 9, which made it all the more volatile for me as I felt they were being contaminated by this ordeal. It only took three months for my outrage at this affair to subside and for me to finally give myself permission to have my own same-sex-relationship which is going on its 11th month now. Film at 11.

At first, I myself was spewing out all the Bible verses, with some added fire and brimstone of my own, at my wife and her new love, and then I finally found the resolve to just let it go. It became obvious that nothing I could say or do was going to change the reality. I later looked at the behaviors in my family- the silence, the gossip- and I decided that even if God does &quot;hate&quot; homosexuality, he does still love me. I agree that one has to deal with what &quot;religious&quot; persons think and say, but what it really boils down to for me is &quot;what do I believe about what God thinks about it (and me).&quot; Will God bar my sister-in-law from heaven for being an inflammatory gossip? I doubt it, and gossip is one of the sins mentioned in the same breath in the Bible as my sleeping with another man. I still believe that God is forgiving, and loving, and will guide me on the path I am taking, even if it is a different one than the one others are taking.
 
The Bible says that we will all stand alone before God. Those who call themselves Christians need to be reminded that they too will be called to give an account for their actions- their words and deeds. If their lives do not mirror what Jesus showed in the Bible, then one could say they have planks in their eyes. And as the Bible says- remove first the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother&#039;s eye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I come from a Baptist Minister&#8217;s family and have just in the past year been separated from my wife who began a lesbian relationship while we were still living in the same household. We have two young daughters, now aged 5 and 9, which made it all the more volatile for me as I felt they were being contaminated by this ordeal. It only took three months for my outrage at this affair to subside and for me to finally give myself permission to have my own same-sex-relationship which is going on its 11th month now. Film at 11.</p>
<p>At first, I myself was spewing out all the Bible verses, with some added fire and brimstone of my own, at my wife and her new love, and then I finally found the resolve to just let it go. It became obvious that nothing I could say or do was going to change the reality. I later looked at the behaviors in my family- the silence, the gossip- and I decided that even if God does &#8220;hate&#8221; homosexuality, he does still love me. I agree that one has to deal with what &#8220;religious&#8221; persons think and say, but what it really boils down to for me is &#8220;what do I believe about what God thinks about it (and me).&#8221; Will God bar my sister-in-law from heaven for being an inflammatory gossip? I doubt it, and gossip is one of the sins mentioned in the same breath in the Bible as my sleeping with another man. I still believe that God is forgiving, and loving, and will guide me on the path I am taking, even if it is a different one than the one others are taking.</p>
<p>The Bible says that we will all stand alone before God. Those who call themselves Christians need to be reminded that they too will be called to give an account for their actions- their words and deeds. If their lives do not mirror what Jesus showed in the Bible, then one could say they have planks in their eyes. And as the Bible says- remove first the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother&#8217;s eye.</p>
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		<title>By: A born-again lesbian</title>
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		<dc:creator>A born-again lesbian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bigotry is bigotry in any form.  Unfortunately, most Christians feel justified in their bigotry because they think the bible says its ok.  I have come to the conclusion that God doesn&#039;t make us gay just to send us to hell.  and here&#039;s proof.... &lt;a href=&quot;www.godmademegay.com&quot;&gt;www.godmademegay.com&lt;/a&gt;
 
as long as you teach your kids what&#039;s right, and show them that you are not a bad person, they will listen to you before they listen to someone who tells them that their parents are &#039;wrong&#039;. 
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bigotry is bigotry in any form.  Unfortunately, most Christians feel justified in their bigotry because they think the bible says its ok.  I have come to the conclusion that God doesn&#8217;t make us gay just to send us to hell.  and here&#8217;s proof&#8230;. <a href="www.godmademegay.com">http://www.godmademegay.com</a></p>
<p>as long as you teach your kids what&#8217;s right, and show them that you are not a bad person, they will listen to you before they listen to someone who tells them that their parents are &#8216;wrong&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2005 22:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am truly extremely sorry for your sister&#039;s behavior.  Excuse her -- she just got reborn!  Right now, she is just a student trying to re-educate the world - only through order and conflict.  There is so much more:   Do not worry &quot;God says: I love you (John 3:16).  God loves you, your partner and your sister.  Nothing in this world can ever stop his love for us.  God will never leave you or forsake you (Hebrews 13:5).   &quot;Patience&quot; is the key, when people are trying to use religion in correcting anything.  People will use religion as a tool to be abusive.    To stop her from trying to hurt you, just ask her to pray in her home.   Just ask your sister to pray for our family&#039;s peace, health, &amp; safety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am truly extremely sorry for your sister&#8217;s behavior.  Excuse her &#8212; she just got reborn!  Right now, she is just a student trying to re-educate the world &#8211; only through order and conflict.  There is so much more:   Do not worry &#8220;God says: I love you (John 3:16).  God loves you, your partner and your sister.  Nothing in this world can ever stop his love for us.  God will never leave you or forsake you (Hebrews 13:5).   &#8220;Patience&#8221; is the key, when people are trying to use religion in correcting anything.  People will use religion as a tool to be abusive.    To stop her from trying to hurt you, just ask her to pray in her home.   Just ask your sister to pray for our family&#8217;s peace, health, &#038; safety.</p>
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